Siemens FII with 2.5cm/1.5f dkl lens

[fsokolic]

First of all, I want to say hello to everyone!
Unfortunately, I don't speak German but with the help of Google translate, I find some helpful information about Siemens 16mm cameras.

A few days ago I got an FII model and works perfectly. I tried with Kodak Vision 320T that I developed in B&W chemistry just for the test. I scanned the work (I'm a film colorist and we have a 35/16mm scanner at work) and I'm really surprised how the image is steady! Honestly, I didn't expect that.
A few days ago I find three empty cassettes on eBay for 50€. So now I'm fully ready to experiment 😆

I tried to find some information about serial numbers and production data but without luck. My camera have serial that is under 3500. If anyone has any sources or information that will be great! 😊

Another thing that bothers me is the lens.
It's a 2.5 cm 1.5f dkl lens. I find some basic information about the dkl lens. It is a lens made for the German war department in the ww2 and that's it. It's the same as the original Schnider lens that is come with a camera but it's black. I found a few photos of a similar lens and my lens have a silver focusing ring, all other that I saw are black.

Any information about this dkl lens will be very helpful to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks
Fran

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[Ray Van Clay]

vor 13 Minuten schrieb fsokolic:

and I'm really surprised how the image is steady! Honestly, I didn't expect that.

 

That's because of the registration pin. You can spot it on the right hand side of your picture #5.

 

Btw., serial no. of my FII is 3331.

[fsokolic]

1 minute ago, Ray Van Clay said:

 

That's because of the registration pin. You can spot it on the right hand side of your picture #5.

 

Btw., serial no. of my FII is 3331.

I know that is because registration pin 😊 ,  but I'm amazed how this old and little piece of precise mechanic works flawlessly after 80+ years. 😊 

In comparison with my Bolex SBM, I'm amazed. I didn't expect that. 

 

My FII is 3453

[Jeff Smart]

There is an excellent vintage book about filming with the Siemens 16mm cameras which I can recommend.

[fsokolic]

1 minute ago, Jeff Smart said:

There is an excellent vintage book about filming with the Siemens 16mm cameras which I can recommend.

Thanks! I'll check 

[Ray Van Clay]

Just discovered this page about Siemens cameras:

 

http://www.olafs-16mm-kino.de/kameras.htm

[fsokolic]

21 hours ago, Ray Van Clay said:

Just discovered this page about Siemens cameras:

 

http://www.olafs-16mm-kino.de/kameras.htm

I know about that site. But thanks anyway 😊 

I'm still trying to find something about the dkl lens but without luck.  😔

[Film-Mechaniker]

dkl war nichts anderes als eine Kriegsbezeichnung, ein Code für die Optischen Werke Josef Schneider & Co.

 

Das Objektiv ist das Cine-Xenon, eine Weiterentwicklung des Opic, f/2, von Taylor, Taylor & Hobson (1920), 1925 berechnet, sechs Elemente. Es wurde schwarz und blank geliefert.

[fsokolic]

On 2/4/2023 at 8:35 AM, Film-Mechaniker said:

dkl war nichts anderes als eine Kriegsbezeichnung, ein Code für die Optischen Werke Josef Schneider & Co.

 

Das Objektiv ist das Cine-Xenon, eine Weiterentwicklung des Opic, f/2, von Taylor, Taylor & Hobson (1920), 1925 berechnet, sechs Elemente. Es wurde schwarz und blank geliefert.

Thanks! 

[Volker Leiste]

Furthermore there is an instruction movie, showing how to handle these Siemens 16mm cameras.

The titel is still the same like the book. "Gehen, sehen, drehen"

 

I got a copy of this wunderful movie from Andec Film in Berlin, who owns the movie and makes copies on demand

[Matthias Bätzel]

Den Film gibt es auch auf YouTube. Viel Spaß beim Schauen!